The problem with positive only dog trainers

The issue for me isn't about arguing whether "positive only" or 'force free" dog training really works. If people want to pretend that it does, no skin off my nose. If they want to think the emperor is wearing new clothes, more power to them. The problem comes in when these people want to force their mythological belief on to everyone else, thus denying other people their freedoms and rights to train the dog the way they wish. That should be the argument. In reality, it's not really force free training anyway. They use "no pull harnesses," which cause discomfort on the dog, as well as "gentle leads" which also cause discomfort on the dog, which forces the dog to conform. For me I have no desire to argue with these people about what is the best training method. I simply wish to maintain my freedom to train the way in which I choose. That is the real battle